A tiny puzzle that grows on you. It’s been a weird and awesome couple of months. Our expectations for our tiny game were well, fairly tiny.
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Basically, we hoped it’d do better than Puzzlejuice. It did. By a lot. It’s still hard to address the world’s response with something beyond a wide- eyed daze but essentially we couldn’t be more thrilled.
Duh. But there’s another side of that daze that we wish to talk about. The rip- offs. With Greg being part of the Ridiculous Fishing team, we’re not shy about calling a clone a clone, and believe us, there’s no shortage of straight- up clones out there, especially on Android.
But it’s the not- really- clone sort of games, the rip- offs, that have popped up that have our feelings puzzled. We know how to deal with a clone, and likely, so do you. First, it started on i. OS with a game called 1.
Seriously, should be under the 500 character mark for once! I have uploaded the first screen shots of the first area in SkyFi, alongside starting its own page, here. The Threes Emails. All told, we sent 570 emails in this email thread. The first 100 were sent from 12/2/13 to 6/20/13. Then things start to pick up more up until release. De 0-9. 125% Service-Providers Marketing Software for Win95: 14106-124-0145506. 1-4-All HTML editor v1.0: User name: dumbo Registration Key.
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The sliding is there, the doubling of cards, the merging, even the art is extremely similar. There are differences. New cards spawn all over the place. Swiping up, down, left or right moves the cards the full distance possible. There are “stones” in the grid that never move.
This last feature was likely a choice the developer made based on the fact that the game was too easy. It's not very fun. Next, came 2. 04. A game system identical to 1. Since, the game has grown in popularity after a posting on Hacker News on March 1. It’s freely available and open source, allows swipes so it can be played on the phone and has spawned many variants since, including our personal favorite: Numberwang 2. It’s all in good fun, at least we’d like to think so, but try as our logical brains might, we still got the same “cloning feeling".
Especially when people called Threes, a game we poured over for nearly a year and a half, a clone of 2. Others rifled off that they thought 2. Threes. That all stung pretty bad. We know Threes is a better game, we spent over a year on it. And obviously, Threes is the reason 2. But why is Threes better? It’s better for us, for our goals.
Something we noticed about this kind of system early on (that you'll see hidden in the emails below). We wanted players to be able to play Threes over many months, if not years. We both beat 2. 04. We’d wager most people that have been able to score a 7. Threes would be able to do the same using the fabled “corner strategy”. You probably could too!
Just try tapping “up” then “right” in alternating order until you can’t move. Then press left. You may not get to a 2. When an automated script that alternates pressing up and right and left every hundreth time can beat the game, then well, that's broken. Is Threes a better game?
We think so. To this day, only about 6 people in the world have ever seen a 6. Threes. But that’s what’s better to us as game designers. We worked really hard to create a simple game system with interesting complexity that you can play forever. You know, “simple to learn, impossible to master”. That old chess- nut…. And it all happened so fast. Threes was cloned and beat to a different market within 6 days of release on i.
OS. 2. 04. 8 isn’t that clone. But it’s sort of the Commander Keen to Super Mario Bros. Imagine Tetris was released and then less than a month later (instead of years) Dr. Mario was released. Dr. Mario is a pretty great game by the way, so the comparison is a bit weird here. Hopefully you get the sentiment.
This sort of fast turnaround creates a lot of confusion and while it’s exciting and somewhat inevitable, it doesn’t make the aftermath easier to deal with as original creators. Maybe not a lot of people know Alexey Pajitnov made Tetris, but of those that care about that kind of thing, it’s fairly obvious to everyone that Tetris came first. If you’re aware of Dr. Mario, you’re almost certainly aware that Tetris exists. The branching of all these ideas can happen so fast nowadays that it seems tiny games like Threes are destined to be lost in the underbrush of copycats, me- toos and iterators. This fast, speed- up of technological and creative advances is the lay of the land here. That’s life! That’s how we get to where we’re going.
Standing on each others shoulders. We want to celebrate iteration on our ideas and ideas in general. It’s great. 2. 04. Threes that is worth investigation, but piling on top of us right when the majority of Threes players haven’t had time to understand all we’ve done with our game’s system and why we took 1.
It’s complicated and hard to express these conflicting feelings but hopefully this is a start. We are so happy with Threes and how it has done and all the response. Seriously. And even writing this feels like we’re whining about some sour grapes that we have no business feeling sour about.
Like it’s not ok to feel the way we do some of the time. But we do. We do believe imitation is the greatest form of flattery, but ideally the imitation happens after we’ve had time to descend slowly from the peak - - not the moment we plant the flag. It took awhile to climb this mountain, 1.
So to “show our work”, we’re posting around 4. It’s not every text, skype call or even every email in our big 5. But it’s the important stuff, and a lot of it was important to getting Threes out in the world. Asher & Greg.
All told, we sent 5. The first 1. 00 were sent from 1. Then things start to pick up more up until release. Asher sends out a prototype on 1. Greg. And then it begins. Greg to Asher - An hour later. Greg to Asher - Next afternoon.
G = 2. 55, then a R,B = 2. Asher to Greg - A little later. Awesome! I really like the tiles. Very solid and they definitely look merge- able.
Really dig the 3. Dness too. I can totally imagine the arrows and walls having the same amount of depth. Not too keen on the color scheme, to be honest.
It feels a little abrasive and neon for my taste. Though if the game stays this simple we could make a bunch of color schemes and something like this could be an option. I'm still going back and forth with how abstract the game should be, but if we go abstract this is definitely a superb option. And I think I'm totally cool with their verticalness too. If we size it right, we could make it rotate appropriately on the i.
Pad. Sick dude! I'll let you know if I have any other thoughts. And that’s how it started. Within a day it would seem we were fairly close to the final product. If you look at that last screenshot and compare it to the final version of Threes you can probably make out the changes necessary to get from A to B. Of course, the game itself had arrows and walls at that time so Greg was skirting a lot of the complexity in favor of getting a general look- and- feel quickly. So what happened over the next 4.
A lot… We’re not going to post everything, but we’ll go through all the key moments of development through our emails back and forth. For links to certain points, check the list of links with dates below. From Asher - 1. 2/7/1. Ahaha I love that you represented fire/water with the burner/pot of water. Also note that I'm going to add "Holes" to the game as soon as I get a free second. You basically slide them into numbers to eat them and that's how you cash out points. I think it's going to be fun.
I get what you're saying about the liquid stuff- - that seems like the most elegant metaphor for the relationship between the numbers. Buuut I dunno the idea of moving molecules or liquid or chemicals doesn't really grip me, y'know? I mean I love science, don't get me wrong, but it feels very..
Abstract. And if we're going abstract I would rather go full abstract like the tiles you made earlier because Excellent Graphic Design excites me much more than organic chemistry. So here's my lame marketing thoughts for the game: If we go full abstract with just numbers and graphic design then we have basically guaranteed the Drop. That's not a huge audience though and in doing so we will scare away.. But if we go full Cute.
Panda. Town on this game then we have the potential of attracting a much larger crowd, but then the Drop. And the Drop. 7ers are probably our core. In a crazy way, I sort of want to do both! It's dumb idea though because it's basically double the design work. But since you asked: I was thinking two websites, two trailers, but they both pointed at the same app. And then when you start the game the first thing that pops up is a question like, "Do you like Pandas?" which would determine how the game is skinned). ANYWAY: the gist is that the design we choose has to jump out and grip the audience in one way or another.
And the only two ways I can think of right now are "Graphic Designy" or "Cute." I'll let you know if I think of any other ideas. Oh geeze I was going to write some more srs bzns stuff, but I'm super late for work now.
More later! alright i hear you. BUT i do pretty strongly believe this game should have one voice/look/feel/brand. ARGYLE! and then rushed out and made it. ANY? that's probably impossible, but i just feel like characters bouncing around then combining leaves a lot of holes. At work so not verbose but: holy shit argyle is brilliant.
DO really like the arrows, at first i didn't it's a high level skill to be able to push one out of the grid. GUESSSSSS the thing i'm trying to say is that "what if it was justs threes and holes?". BLAMO! high score. Okay whew sorry for not responding sooner, but I've been trying to drown myself in the design and figure out what'll give this game legs. The holes feel mixed to me at the moment. They add a nice risk/reward element, but something about them is making the game feel like a grind for me. I dunno. I think there's needs to be something about the way you summon them or protect them.
Right now they show up every 3. Still working on it, but doing little things like changing the starting conditions of the game makes the whole thing feel way better and snappier on the whole. Less "waste" moves.).
Holes still might be the answer, but I don't know. Either way that monster is absolutely kick ass. I burst out laughing when I saw it. The eyes are fantastic.